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Speaking as a salesperson for LO these many years, I can talk a little about the

About the what? About THE WHAT? CUT THE RED WIRE!!!

Couldn't help meself. Tell me all, Snrub. I know you've got stories (and scars) from the other side of the lookingglass.

I don't know why it didn't post.....sorry. Vox is a little difficult, but...here we go.

Speaking as a salesperson for LO these many years, I can talk a little about the other side of this.

I depend on support people and support people depend on me. The only difference is - they don't realize it or want to admit it, and I will. Without sales, they don't have a job. Without support, I don't get sales.

There is, often, a palpable jealousy from the support side that salespeople get pampered, don't really work and get all the breaks, whilst the 'real work' is done by the support staff.

I have definitely done the put-on-charm thing. Usually, it's fakey charm for staff that are jerkoffs towards sales. If I don't kiss their ass, I won't get anything done. It's a fucking fact. Book it.

Now, the other 95% of the support staff that does their job and are great fellow employees will get the charm treatment, too, but, only because, as a salesman, I have to assume hostility from their end.

Part of the reason is because I couldn't do their job. I just don't have it in me to work salary for someone banking on commissions. I've done it. It sucked ass. Swore to never go back. Instead, I decided that I would be the 'commission guy' and would treat staff with the respect I didn't get.

Now, salespeople are phony. I'm not saying all salespeople are phony, but, if there's a phony in your office, he's probably in sales.

IT people and support staff can be weird and aloff, and that's 'kinda' assholish, but, for plain and simple phony-baloney bullshit, you look no further than the sales department!

Mr. Snrub

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